Golf Forums - Club H/Cap v TSG H/Cap

Question for you all! So you've only ever been a member of the "Great" TSG and you have worked hard to achive a handicap of (lets say, 10) however you join a club and your then given an "Offical Club" handicap from the pro, of lets say.. 15.

Now what do you do?.... Do you change your TSG handicap to your Offical Club handicap or do you stick with your 10 for the TSG and use 15 when playing at your club?

Hi Andy, that's a bit of a dilema, because it is almost certain, that a TSG handicap will be lower than a club handicap. My club handicap when I joined the TSG was 15, but I knew I was better than that so I started at the TSC with a handicap of 12 that I gave myself.
The TSG we put in every score card, (ok ish), where as at a club, they usually only adjust your handicap in competitions at the club. So if you want to win use a club handicap sir :-)
be happy and enjoy whacking them balls about

Andy, generally, it is accepted that if a person has more than one handicap, from different sources, and enters a comp at another unrelated course, the lower of the two should be used, but this opens up a can of worms....as you can imagine. Like everything else in golf it is a question of player honesty.<br /> On a different tack, I would suggest that a TSG handicap is more reflective of your true ability than most club handicaps. On the one hand, club handicaps are only taken from Comps you have entered...monthly medals for eg, and on the same course, week after week. (boring) whereas If you're honest...ALL cards are entered into the TSG system, with scores from a myriad of courses, ergo generating a truer picture of your ability

 Gents, I was under the impression that if you are playing a game organised on TSG, your official TSG handicap should be used. Unless you haven't put in the required 3 cards, then you can use your Congu H'cap issued by your club. Once you have entered 3 cards and received a TSG H'cap then this must be used for all TSG games.

So Andy, the answer is play with your TSG H'cap and keep your club H'cap for your club games.

 I personally agree with Terry.... but i thought it was a good question and debate to have. I played with someone last week that had 3 handicap... 15, 18 , 21 ....... work that one out!!!

I always do use my TSG handicap Terry sir :-)

In my experience a CONGU club handicap is played off the white tees and counter signed by your playing partner whereas the TSG handicap is off Yellow tees and submitted as a non-validated score. In club competitions you have to putt out' whereas TSG often allows generous 'gimmes' which isn't really golf. You can play 18 holes without ever putting out which is the hardest discipline of all.... in my opinion. You rarely take stroke and distance penalties when a ball is lost in my observation whereas in CONGU comps the rules are applied correctly.... Back to the tee or where the last stroke was made etc... Ignorance of the R&A rules are permissible in social golf, in club comps they are not.

On proper courses the difference between the yellow and white tees can be considerable and stretch you to the limit of your ability.

TSG handicap flatters the ego, CONGU brings you down to earth........

In my humble experience :-)

Exactly Feisal. We do lots at aTSG meet that we would never be allowed under CONGU or for that matter R&A rules. Dropping a ball next to where you think the ball went o/b, dropping of a ball next to a hazard, even using mobiles as gps devices.

Good to hear Andy.
see you Sunday and good luck.

re John, an amature golfer got in trouble at the open because he had a gps device. He made the mistake, because it is allowed in amature golf competitions :-)  apparently, if you remove the sim card, it ceases to be a mobile phone by definition, therefore usable. Not that any of us remove the sim card of course.
P.S. I do take stroke and distance, in the round efore the 1/4 final despite being offered a drop  my opponent, I went back and took stroke and ance (which cost me the first hole)

and in addition, the SSS is different for yellow compared to white tees. But I play for fun, which is why tomorrow is my last competition I'll be entering, as due to Mathew's decline Golf needs to be for me just relax, and not focussing on competing.
Totally agree that puts should be made, but esp in winter, gimme's inside 12 inches are fine, outside in stroke or stableford, put it out and find out if your putting is as good as you thought it was.   :-)
happy Golfing

"In my humble experience", my views are totally in line with Fiesal Bacchus &  John Barber, I could not put it down more eloquently.

But I need to add one more thing that has not been mentioned yet in any of the above comments:

in Club Comps, very often the SS is adjusted for the day's play taking into account weather, course condition, and general play, that will affects the handicap recorded as the SS can then change by +1 or -1 or other.  That features does not appear with TSG games.
Also worth mentioning when winter/temporary Tees, temporary Greens are used (making it a much shorter course), scores do not normally count towards handicap, TSGers seem to record whatever.....
Please correct me if wrong.

So yes, Club and TSG handicaps will always differs, but the spirit lives on and TSG is a fantastic way to play golf, discover new courses, get extremely good deals, make new friends.

Vive Le TSG 🇫🇷😀


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