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Roger Akerman
Handicap: 13
East Sussex
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 118
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I have just been reading some of the new rules that take place in 2019.
the one relating to putting with the flag in, does this mean that if you have a 6" put you can leave the flag in??
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Gary Tonge
Handicap: 24
East Sussex
Joined: Sep 2016 Posts: 54
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Yes that's how I read it.
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Andrew Turnbull
Handicap: 6
Essex
Joined: Jun 2015 Posts: 16
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You always could. But needed to remove it for the 3 incher coming back
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Ian Mullins
Handicap: 20
Essex
Pro Member
Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 378
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Not sure that any of these rule chnages have been approved yet Roger.....
It's my understanding that currently this is all under 'consultation' until 2019, can you imagine any other sport taking TWO years to consider rule changes.
Apparently, you will also be able to drop a ball, following a penalty, from only 3 inches - what the point of that, you might as well just place it and be done with it!
:O)
Proposed new Rules of Golf (Couresty of R&A website)...
The proposed 24 new Rules, reduced from the current 34, have been written in a user-friendly style with shorter sentences, commonly used phrases, bulleted lists and explanatory headings. The initiative also focuses on assessing the overall consistency, simplicity and fairness of the Rules for play.
The Rules are currently delivered in more than 30 languages, and the proposed wording will support easier translation worldwide. When adopted, the Rules will be supported by technology that allows the use of images, videos and graphics.
Highlights of the proposed Rule changes
- Elimination or reduction of “ball moved” penalties: There will be no penalty for accidentally moving a ball on the putting green or in searching for a ball; and a player is not responsible for causing a ball to move unless it is “virtually certain” that he or she did so.
- Relaxed putting green rules: There will be no penalty if a ball played from the putting green hits an unattended flagstick in the hole; players may putt without having the flagstick attended or removed. Players may repair spike marks and other damage made by shoes, animal damage and other damage on the putting green and there is no penalty for merely touching the line of putt.
- Relaxed rules for “penalty areas” (currently called “water hazards”): Red and yellow-marked penalty areas may cover areas of desert, jungle, lava rock, etc., in addition to areas of water; expanded use of red penalty areas where lateral relief is allowed; and there will be no penalty for moving loose impediments or touching the ground or water in a penalty area.
- Relaxed bunker rules: There will be no penalty for moving loose impediments in a bunker or for generally touching the sand with a hand or club. A limited set of restrictions (such as not grounding the club right next to the ball) is kept to preserve the challenge of playing from the sand; however, an extra relief option is added for an unplayable ball in a bunker, allowing the ball to be played from outside the bunker with a two-stroke penalty.
- Relying on player integrity: A player’s “reasonable judgment” when estimating or measuring a spot, point, line, area or distance will be upheld, even if video evidence later shows it to be wrong; and elimination of announcement procedures when lifting a ball to identify it or to see if it is damaged.
- Pace-of-play support: Reduced time for searching for a lost ball (from five minutes to three); affirmative encouragement of “ready golf” in stroke play; recommending that players take no more than 40 seconds to play a stroke and other changes intended to help with pace of play.
- Simplified way of taking relief: A new procedure for taking relief by dropping a ball in and playing it from a specific relief area; relaxed procedures for dropping a ball, allowing the ball to be dropped from just above the ground or any growing thing or other object on the ground.
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Roger Akerman
Handicap: 13
East Sussex
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 118
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Thanks Ian, as always a great reply, yes I understood that the changes were under consultation and as you say whats the point of dropping it from 3 inches
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'JB' John Barbe...
Handicap: 15
Bedfordshire
Pro Member
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 275
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The 'dropping' is from just above the ground - my take is that a drop is to stop player's 'teeing' up the ball on a worm cast or similar, or making the perfect lie on replacing the ball in a bunker (ie plugged in sand), thus still adding a small amount of chance into the equation.
As to removing loose impediments in a bunker etc., lets hope this isn't at the discretion of the committee, as there are enough idiots on some committees stupid enough to want to still make removal of said impediments a rule at their club.
jb
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