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'JB' John Barbe...
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Anything to put the cat amongst the pigeons! Have fun reading....
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Ian Mullins
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errrr, no!
However, perhaps a wider debate is what rules would you like to see abolished?
I'll started things off with... should you get a free drop from divot (fairway only)...yes!
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'JB' John Barbe...
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I'll have to disagree with that one Ian. Always used to think you should get the drop, but looking at the bare patches and other marks on the fairways, it is just 'the rub of the green'. The number of times that we all go into divots is actually a lot less than we seem to think - I've played 4 times this week and not been in one.
And those that take a divot? Repair it by replacing what you have chopped out as well as you can.
And those 4 games? I went in bunkers that ignorant previous players had not raked and had my ball 'hop' on the greens a couple of times because same type of player couldn't be bothered to fix their pitch marks! (Funny how some players seem to think it is the green staffs job!)
If you go in a bunker, rake it (and rake any other marks in it). If you have a pitch mark to repair, fix another one or two if they are there.
jb
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Paul Houghton
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My pet hate is players that don’t mark their ball, then expect you to look for it!
After trudging through the rough....What ball are you playing? Errr it’s a Srixon I think, maybe a 2 or a 3? This is a Callaway Chrome soft 6, ah yes that’s it!!!!
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Steve 'The Powe...
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I don't think there are any rules I would like to be abolished, there may be elements of courtesy that could do with being enforcible, repairing divots, pitch marks and raking bunkers would be high on my list. Perhaps we can adopt "make a mark" and "repair a few" as a policy to be recommended.
Is it worth penalising slow play for social game?
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Paul Houghton
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Steve 'The Power' Slater wrote:
Is it worth penalising slow play for social game?
I think a golf clock could be down loaded for certain tournaments. A bit like a Chess clock. It could be one clock for each group. You clock when you start the hole and clock when you arrive at the next tee. You can pause the clock if slow players are in front. Any group taking more than 25 minutes a penerlised a point.
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I joined this forum today only to make a point about pace of play. Obviously marking a scorecard on the green is a no-no, but I have scarcely ever seen anyone do that. The more common problem occurs at the next tee. The four-ball arrives and out come all the scorecards. No. The player with the honour should immediately get on the tee and drive, then mark his card while the other three play. Yes, I am in favour of 'ready golf' but the honour should be preserved for this reason.
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'JB' John Barbe...
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I understand what you say Paul, but -
Played a doubles match yesterday, with all that entails in honour. Our collective decision at the begining of the match was that whoever was ready on the tee would play, whether they were the pair with the honour or not - it was purely a case of ready golf and to keep the pace of play (busy course) going as quickly as possible. If you are playing and there is no one chasing you (this mornings medal round) then fine, play with the honour, or as we did, whoever is ready. And another thing to throw in the pot, one of our normal Saturday fourball refuses to play until everyone else has played - it's just what he likes to do.
So to sum up, I'd say if you can play with the honour and hold no one up, do it. But generally I would say, first on the tee plays - if you want your honour, be first ready to play, then sort the paperwork out afterwards.
jb
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Steve 'The Powe...
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A way to speed up play, shorter hitters off the tee can be invited to hit first as the group in front won't need to be quite so far away. It does increase the speed of play.
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"Marky" Mark Cr...
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I think there should be a rule that every golf course should have a halfway house serving cider, whoop whoop :))
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Ian Mullins
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Here's some more...
Key changes include:
- Modifications for Players with Disabilities: The modifications to the Rules for players with disabilities have been made part of the Rules and are in effect for all players who fall under the categories covered in Rule 25.
- Handicap Usage in Stroke Play: With the continued growth of digital scoring following the adoption of the World Handicap System, players are no longer required to show their handicap on their scorecard in stroke play. The Committee will be responsible for calculating the player’s handicap strokes for the competition and using that to calculate the player’s net score.
- Club Damaged During Round: The Rule has been amended to allow a player to replace a club that is damaged during a round, provided the player did not damage it through abuse.
- Ball Moved by Natural Forces: A new Exception provides that a ball at rest must be replaced if it moves to another area of the course or comes to rest out of bounds after being dropped, placed or replaced.
- Back-on-the-Line Relief Procedure: The back-on-the-line relief procedure, often used for penalty area and unplayable ball relief, has been simplified so that the player now drops their ball on the line, and the ball must come to rest within one club-length of where it is dropped.
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'JB' John Barbe...
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It's good to see that there is an updated search system for instant checking of a rule - says downloadable from mid-December.
Played a club match recently and one of our opponents did an air shot on the tee. His partner was convinced that the rule had been changed and this did not count. Anyway before being half-way down the 6th, I had checked on gurgle and, lo and behold, he was correct ..........ONLY IF YOU ARE PLAYING IN JAPAN. Still counts as a stroke in the rest of the world!
And for those that (have heard this many times) say 'but this is theSOCIALgolfer', just remember, that we all have 'interpretations' that when checked don't hold water!
jb
ps - not just cider at those halfway houses!
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Steve 'The Powe...
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Paul Houghton
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John Barber wrote: It's good to see that there is an updated search system for instant checking of a rule - says downloadable from mid-December.
Played a club match recently and one of our opponents did an air shot on the tee. His partner was convinced that the rule had been changed and this did not count. Anyway before being half-way down the 6th, I had checked on gurgle and, lo and behold, he was correct ..........ONLY IF YOU ARE PLAYING IN JAPAN. Still counts as a stroke in the rest of the world!
And for those that (have heard this many times) say 'but this is theSOCIALgolfer', just remember, that we all have 'interpretations' that when checked don't hold water!
jb
ps - not just cider at those halfway houses!
Good point John, how many players have actually read the laws of golf? Not many I play with!
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