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#1 Posted : Saturday, February 27, 2010 2:08:00 PM
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I was reading Golf Monthly at work last night whilst waiting to be loaded.

Cleveland had an advertisement for their new wedges.

What they have is the normal grooves, but then they have lasered four extra lines between each groove.

They are claiming that this gives their clubface the maximum amount of grip that is allowed.

Now is this just advertising hype or would it work?

Russ

#2 Posted : Sunday, February 28, 2010 10:01:00 AM
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Funnily enough I have friend who really rates his Cleveland wedges (and he's bought a few clubs in his time!). Then today when I logged on there was advert across the top for Cleveland wedges which, because I need something to fit between my wedge and sand wedge (difference of 25-30 yards between clubs - far too much) I had a look at it, and then I see this forum post.  Spooky...

Anyway, having clicked on the Clecland advert they say their Black Pearl wedge has won a few 'Best in class' and ' Editors choice' awards from a few magazines (probably one of the ones you read - don't know now though because the advert has rotated to something else). But didn't see anything about new 'extra' lines between the grooves.
#3 Posted : Sunday, February 28, 2010 10:09:00 AM
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Hi Pete,

Click this link and it will take you to some pictures of the new wedges.

The pictures scroll and one of them gives you a really good view of the extra lines on the clubface.

http://www.clevelandgolf...BP__viewProd_wedges.html, once you get to the page click on 'Gallery'

It would be interesting to try one of these wedges against what I'm using at the moment.

Russ

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#4 Posted : Sunday, February 28, 2010 6:59:00 PM
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Hi Russ,
 
Bought the new  Clevland CG15 wedge a few weeks ago. On my coach's advice that only a bounce of 6 degrees is suitable for English type courses, got a 62 degree one which is a bit extreme. He would have bent 8 degree ones down, losing 2 degrees of loft but the Romford/A12 store didnt have them in stock. First few shots round Abbotts pretty good, but as it was so wet Wednesday 10 days ago, I need confidence to hit harder. Giving it a second go round Priors on Tuesday, you not able to make it?
#5 Posted : Sunday, February 28, 2010 7:05:00 PM
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http://www.clubhousegolf.co.uk/acatalog/Cleveland_CG15_DSG_Oil_Quench_Golf_Wedge.html

This is the one I went for, the Dynamic Sole Grind model to get the reduced loft.   Oil Quench looks quite nice. And if it rusts, that adds to the 4 groove lines spin potential  .............. apparently!

Only available this year before the old grooves are not saleable, but ok to use till 2024 in Amateur competition.
#6 Posted : Sunday, February 28, 2010 8:11:00 PM
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What does your coach mean by 6' of bounce only being suitable for English courses Low bounce is good for tight lies, hard turf and firm fairways/bunker, higher bounce for soft springy fairways, fluffy bunkers and deep rough. as we have a good lot of Park land and Links, Not forgetting the mixed weather, I have one wedge low, one standard and one high.
#7 Posted : Sunday, February 28, 2010 8:37:00 PM
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Hi Andrew,

Next time we'll play I'll have to give your new wedge a swing.

Can't say about Tuesday as I start work on Monday evening, and it's not unusual for Mondays to be busy, so therefore a late night for me.  What time you thinking of playing?

If you say 11am I might be able to get there!

My two Mizuno wedges have 8 degrees of bounce.  I use both of them out of bunkers.

Russ
#8 Posted : Sunday, February 28, 2010 11:09:00 PM
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Posted by mark rowley on 28 Feb 2010, 20:11

What does your coach mean by 6' of bounce only being suitable for English courses Low bounce is good for tight lies, hard turf and firm fairways/bunker, higher bounce for soft springy fairways, fluffy bunkers and deep rough. as we have a good lot of Park land and Links, Not forgetting the mixed weather, I have one wedge low, one standard and one high.
Hi Mark,

Like you say, soft springy courses are what the higher bounce are designed for and in particular USA style fairways. I found my old Ryder mk2 wedge from years ago and it was measured to be 4 degree bounce. I've hated my Ping G10 for chips off harder summer fairways and now know the reason why as my local woodland course Belfiars has very tight lies in summer. Also the higher bounce is good for fluffy sand bunkers, most I play in are rather harder and again I believe lower bounce is better in this type.
#9 Posted : Sunday, February 28, 2010 11:11:00 PM
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Posted by Russell Middleton on 28 Feb 2010, 20:37

Hi Andrew,

Next time we'll play I'll have to give your new wedge a swing.

Can't say about Tuesday as I start work on Monday evening, and it's not unusual for Mondays to be busy, so therefore a late night for me.  What time you thinking of playing?

If you say 11am I might be able to get there!

My two Mizuno wedges have 8 degrees of bounce.  I use both of them out of bunkers.

Russ
Hi Russ,

Its Andy Flynns game at 9.58 on this site.
#10 Posted : Sunday, February 28, 2010 11:13:00 PM
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Posted by mark rowley on 28 Feb 2010, 20:11

What does your coach mean by 6' of bounce only being suitable for English courses Low bounce is good for tight lies, hard turf and firm fairways/bunker, higher bounce for soft springy fairways, fluffy bunkers and deep rough. as we have a good lot of Park land and Links, Not forgetting the mixed weather, I have one wedge low, one standard and one high.

Looks like you have everything covered!  Are they similar loft?
#11 Posted : Monday, March 1, 2010 6:42:00 AM
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Andrew,

My wedges are as follows -

CG 12 - 52' with 6' bounce because mainly used for fairway approach from 110-120 yards, also good for the tight lies just off or around the green.....

Ping T-wedge 56' - 10'  80-100 yards, general bunker play, greenside shots........

Cleveland 588 60' - 14'  55-75 yards,  lose fluffy bunkers, rough/semi-rough around the green, or to pop the ball up and back into play from long grass.
#12 Posted : Monday, March 1, 2010 8:43:00 AM
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Sounds good Mark
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